Today’s Headlines for Friday, April 1

  • Beth White, Who Managed The 606 Project, Will Lead Parks Group in Houston (DNA)
  • The Divvy-Endorsed CycleFinder App Gets a Makeover (Tribune)
  • Why Were Several Dozen ‘L’ Stops Eliminated During the 20th Century? (MPC)
  • Red Line Cell Phone Jammer Placed May Be Able to Avoid a Conviction (Tribune)
  • 60-Unit, 30-Space TOD Planned Close to Clark/Division Stop (Curbed)
  • Development Planned Near Red Line’s Sheridan Station With 28 Units, 14 Spaces (Curbed)
  • The Six Corners Association Dedicates 2 Bike Murals & 4 Parking Corals This Saturday
  • Loop Alliance Hosts “Big City, Big Data” Talk on 4/14, Including a Discussion of Ped Counts

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  • Pat

    Why is Steven Vance withholding the name of his magical bikeshare app?!?!?-

  • Chicagoan

    I enjoyed the article about the removal of L stops during the 20th century. It got me thinking, what are some stops people would love having back (or seeing built new)?

    Brown Line: Division St.
    Green Line: Western Ave.
    Pink Line: Madison St. (Call it Madison/United Center?)
    Yellow Line: Asbury Ave., Crawford Ave.


  • Jeff Gio

    seems the blue line has always had so few stops!

  • Anne A

    I’ve been using Biximo, which works for bike share in a few other cities as well as Chicago. Don’t know if this is what Steven is using.

  • Anne A

    Green line: Damen/United Center

  • I lived as a kid next to the now long gone Isabella what-would-have-been-Purple line stop. It was a ground level stop and had an actual person who would close the crossing guard gate for both the sidewalk and the street.

  • BlueFairlane

    On the one hand, I’m horrified at the thought of how long it must have taken to get to Oak Park on the Green Line in the old days. On the other hand, those are some neighborhoods that could really use some more access.

  • Concobhar Mac Conmara

    extend the green line to 111th and pulaski via western and 111th. Pipe dream and not the most logical thing to do, but still

  • (typo-watch: I think you mean parking corrals, not corals?)

  • In the mid-90s the Halsted stop — a heavily used transfer point — was taken down in the middle of a massive remodel. On the Green Line at minimum all streets with major arterial bus lines should have a station, so people can transfer for downtown (or Oak Park).

  • Jared Kachelmeyer

    El stops should generally be every half mile outside of downtown. Which is probably what the average is, but sometimes there’s long gaps, then stations every quarter mile like the last mile or so of the Brown Line.

  • A and B trains. 30% fewer stops by the train, but with more stops on the line.

  • BlueFairlane

    Seems to me there’s a reason we stopped doing that.

  • It was quite a bit of hassle, as I recall, making sure that you didn’t have to change trains when going someplace new. My guess is that with the elimination of enough stops the time difference was mooted. I wasn’t suggesting its return.

  • planetshwoop

    A/B trains are a dumb design, but not a bad idea. Instead of trying to figure out if you need the a train or b train, just add another color line. Take copper line to Argyle and red to Sheridan (or something like that). Makes the system look bigger too.

  • Well take the Copper from Argyle to Wilson to change to the Red for Sheridan.That sort of thing. It’s fine for everybody going downtown. But then going home is still a “is this train mine?”

  • I grew up at North and Clybourn when it was an A stop.

    It really wasn’t a big deal negotiating A/B/all stops trains, and the maps were quite clear. I don’t know why people are blowing it up into a huge thing.

    I guess if you grew up and are used to just stepping onto any train that stops at your platform, yeah, it’s a pain, but is it really any worse than remembering whether you want an Orange or Green at Roosevelt, or a Purple or Red at Belmont?

    Check the curtains. Check the map. No big deal.

  • BlueFairlane

    Well, for one thing you go from having to figure out whether you want an Orange or a Green to figuring out if you want an Orange A, an Orange B, a Green A, or a Green B. So yeah, it’s worse.

  • planetshwoop

    I agree with Elliot. I’m not sure why it’s too different from red/purple today.

  • The red line now makes all the stops that’s the difference. Look, I’m not saying this is a big deal. But it is at least a little deal. Everyone admits it is at least a bit of a pain.

    Some trips would require a change of trains. Right now no trips require a change. Maybe only 15% of trips on an AB line would require a change. So right no “biggie” just a “smallie.”

    You also have to strategize where to change. Will you lose a seat if you change at X or will you not get a seat at Y.

  • The A and B stop issue wasn’t as bad when you were on the Howard line and warm in the subway – but I will tell you that standing on a freezing platform at the stops further north (and I imagine south) only to see “your” train from a distance then pass you up was like getting punched in the gut.

    Eventually I learned to just walk an extra few blocks to get to an A/B stop. Not a great system.

    And speaking of North and Clybourn, does anyone else find it weird that while Apple has made the above ground surroundings all nice and spiffy, the platform area itself has all the charm of a prison scene set in Joliet from a bad 70s movie?

  • You can tell from the lights on the front from quite a distance if it’s an A, B, or All Stops. All Stops was white, and the others had either a red or green light, depending.

  • I doubt they’d A/B the Orange, it has too few stops for it to matter. The Brown, the Green, and the Red, sure; the Blue has lots of spacing between stops, but on the other hand it also has a really, REALLY long route and a lot of people who want to skip stops on their ways to the termini, so maybe they would.

    Pink makes no sense to A/B up, nor does yellow.

  • I haven’t updated it in two years and I don’t want anyone to download it expecting it to be useful :/

  • You couldn’t see the Ravenswood train from quite a distance as the track bends.

    And either way, the critical issue is that of perception. This is why bus tracker is so great – it doesn’t actually make anything run faster (it doesn’t stop bus bunching or remove gridlock), but it removes the uncertainty, which is what makes waiting such a drag.

  • The CycleFinder app will also route you down alleys. But it won’t route you via the Divvy stations you’ll need to use to complete your route.