Today’s Headlines

  • “Sacrifice Parking” For Parkland At Montrose Beach? Moss Design Makes Newsworthy Comment (Tribune)
  • MPC Prez: Sky Really Is Falling On Transportation Funding (Crain’s)
  • Ald. Reilly Wants To Restrict Segways to E. Randolph Bike Lane (Chicagoist)
  • Act Like You Own The Place: Millennium Station Retail For Sale (Crain’s)
  • Overnight Construction On Red Line Will Result In Overnight Construction Noise (DNA)
  • Local 11-Year-Old Replaces 10-Year-Old’s Stolen Bike (Beverly Review)
  • Heritage & Police Recover Stolen Bike On Customer’s Behalf (Heritage)
  • Kickstarter Would Fund Silly Ads Aboard CTA (RedEye)
  • Ten Simple Pleasures For CTA Riders (RedEye)

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  • Generally, i like the plan Matt proposes. A few comments:
    – I would absolutely love to see the lagoon constructed. However, the concrete embankment is relatively new and in good condition. I just can’t see the park district ripping something out that they recently paid for.
    – I think the boardwalk/bar expansion should head towards the NW rather than the SE. The current concession area already feels a bit off-centered to the bulk of the beach and is awkwardly adjacent to the bird sanctuary. Personally, I’d demolish this old, funky facility and build a new one NW. This would put it closer to the access drive and provide a better buffer between the natural and recreational areas of the point. Near Matt’s proposed bridge seems like a good spot.
    – I’d move the bait shop further SE. Most fisherman (and women) fish the hook pier and the southern end of the point. Also, I think this would better spread out facilities (like bathrooms) throughout the park.

    One general park comment… Matt’s idea to use permeable pavers is a very good one. Personally, i can’t understand why the park district hasn’t gone this way already. Considering that docks close soon after labor day and auto traffic plummets late fall to early spring, there shouldn’t be any concerns about plowing or salting lots/streets that would cause rapid deterioration. Perhaps with the exception of main access drives, all paving in the city’s parks ought to be permeable.

  • skyrefuge

    Tribune says: “[Nardella’s Montrose Beach] design, which has sparked a lively discussion on Streetsblog Chicago…”

    Wut? His comment currently has zero responses and one upvote. It was John’s article, not Nardella’s post, that sparked the discussion. Tribune writer does not know how to read the Internet.

    And it’s still crazy how we got this whole chain-of-events: park-district officials give response to some guy’s reduced-parking drawing, after a Trib reporter asks them for a response, after he sees the drawing posted on Streetsblog, after Streetsblog wrote an article about reducing parking, after an alderman made a comment about reducing parking, after there was an incident at Montrose Beach that was caused by *people*, not by parking.

    I guess the lesson is, if you want to get your pet idea in front of the powers-that-be, find some way to tie it to a violent incident, no matter how tenuous the connection! “woo hoo, someone got shot in my neighborhood! Now maybe I can finally get them to bury those ugly electrical wires underground. You know, because of that shoes-on-the-wires thing. Or something. Yeah!”

  • BlueFairlane

    Isn’t this very thing the main selling point for social media?

  • cjlane

    “Personally, i can’t understand why the park district hasn’t gone [with permeable pavers] already.”

    I would assume that it is because the permeable paver sales people are nobodies who nobody sent. Once one of the companies partners with the brother in law or cousin of someone at the Park District, I’m sure we’ll see them popping up.

    In a slightly less cynical vein, if I am correct, we’ve only really seen them spec’d in City projects in the last ~3-4 years–has the Park District undertaken any significant reconstruction in the lakefront parks that was designed and spec’d in 2010 or later? I would be surprised if we don’t start seeing them in the next iteration of projects.

  • The only city project i can think of them being used is the Couch Place alley. Where else have you found them?

  • I keep hearing rumors that some alleys have been redone with permeable asphalt (and underground features intended to help handle the stormwater and disperse it underground), but I don’t have addresses. Seems like a no-brainer, especially with the insane microburst thunderstorm flooding we’ve had the past couple springs.

  • Fred

    The alley behind my building was done a few years ago. The challenge with alleys is they CDOT will only do them if the city owns the entire alley. Many alleys are owned by the buildings surrounding them and the city will not purchase them. So the only way a private alley can go permeable by the city is if every single owner of an alley agrees to give the alley to the city at no cost. That can be a tough sell.

  • cjlane

    Irving Park and Lawrence streetscapes, from Ashland to Western/River. Some part of Clark, too, maybe?

    As to the permeable alleys, I know that it has been done on a few blocks of alleys in the 47th Ward. Lot more expensive, and you need to have reasonable surface permeability–my alley would be a bad choice bc of the amount of clay that is quite near the surface.

  • Especially if most of the owners don’t know it’s even an option. :->